[Review] Kishin Houkou Demonbane

機神咆吼デモンベイン
https://vndb.org/v231

Demonbane is a VN that sounds amazing on paper (giant robots + H.P. Lovecraft) but sadly ends up being a largely mediocre and occasionally outright sleep-inducing experience. Which is a crying shame because not only am I a fan of Lovecraft’s horror stories but I do also enjoy me a hot-blooded, buttfuck-stupid-but-still-awesome testosterone carnival from time to time, so this sounded like something right up my alley. The problem, however, is that Demonbane’s Lovecraftian influences are surface-level at best, its plot is riddled with stale clichés and predictable elements, and its supposedly Boiling Hot Chuuni Action is colder than a penguin’s butthole. But at least it has a few nice characters, some serviceable comedy, and a total of one satisfying ending. Now, whether or not that’s enough to justify the massive time investment required to finish all three routes… is something I’ll come back to at the end of this review.

Spoilers: the answer will probably not surprise you.

You might have noticed that the title up there says Kishin Houkou Demonbane and not Zanmataisei Demonbane. The quick explanation is that Kishin Houkou is a later re-release of Demonbane that went all-ages but added full voice acting (as well as some new CGs/scenes, I think?) to make up for the lack of porn. To be perfectly frank, not being able to bone any of Demonbane’s cuties saddened me a little bit, but the good news is that the voice acting is actually really quite good with plenty of top-tier veterans filling the roster. And besides, Hikaru Midorikawa’s voice is pretty much ear sex anyway, so… you know.

So what’s this VN about, anyway? I’ll keep it brief: the main character, one Daijuuji Kurou, moves to Arkham City after having dropped out of the Miskatonic University and becomes a detective-for-hire. Which would be cool, except for the fact that he hasn’t had a case in ages and is generally broke as fuck and has to rely on Leica, a nun at the local church/orphanage to cook for him. One day he gets an abrupt visit from Hadou Ruri, the head of a wealthy and powerful company in Arkham called the Hadou Group, and is promptly tasked with tracking down an ancient grimoire. Said grimoire is none other than Al Azif, aka the Necronomicon, penned by Abdul Alhazred of Cthulhu Mythos fame. Except she (the Necronomicon, that is) looks like a cute girl because let’s be real, this wouldn’t be an eroge if you couldn’t stick your dick in a thousand-year-old piece of literature, now would it. Anyway, one thing leads to another and Kurou, along with Al Azif, ends up having to pilot Demonbane, the giant robot that serves as the Hadou Group’s final trump card against the Black Lodge, an organization of evil wizards terrorizing Arkham on a daily basis. That basic premise doesn’t really change much throughout the course of the VN, meaning Demonbane pretty much remains an old-fashioned “good vs. evil” story about a hero going up against a bunch of irredeemable monsters.

I’ll be honest, the game utterly failed to hold my attention for the first few hours, for reasons that sadly continued to permeate the rest of the experience. Its chuuni is half-baked and corny, the fight scenes are boring, over-written and rarely, if ever, do anything outrageously awesome, and even the music is sort of lame and just reminds you of a cheesy superhero show aimed at kids. It wasn’t until Chapter 4 and onwards that I finally started liking the VN a bit more (injecting Elsa into the plot significantly improved my enjoyment of it) but in retrospect, the quality never quite reached a point where I could confidently call it “above average”. Mostly because it stays comfortably average from start to finish.

Weirdly enough, Demonbane’s chief selling point – the giant robot fights – is one of the main things I vehemently dislike about it; I generally enjoyed the VN’s “normal” scenes where the characters just interact with each other and do wacky shit, but the moment the robots started punching each other I just zoned the fuck out. The cringe-inducing chuuni shouts and catchphrases hold battles back even more, and there’s only so many times I can read “Demonbane punched that fucker into the stratosphere” or “Kurou started firing his dual pistols pew pew pew” or “Timaeus! Critias!” before I start falling asleep. To make matters worse, his arsenal is fairly limited so he keeps using the same moves and weapons in nearly every fight, leading to a nauseating amount of repetition in a VN that already recycles half its content across three exasperatingly samey routes. The first half of the storyline largely uses a “monster of the week” formula and the fights are usually over before they get really tiring, but once the second half of the plot gets going, the battles become entirely too drawn out while remaining just as bland and uninspired as before. For the record, I’m not criticizing the game for being chuuni, I’m criticizing it for being the bad kind of chuuni. At several points in the story, I could tell the game was trying its hardest to be badass – either the music would ramp up, or there’d be a sudden insert song, or the characters would try to act all cool or start a heroic monologue. But every single time, I just felt… nothing. I mean, for a supposed 燃えゲー, I didn’t really find much to get fired up about in this.

At the beginning of the review, I implied that Demonbane’s Mythos-inspired elements are rather shallow. Well, yeah. They kinda are. Although the script loves to name-drop prominent figures, locations and terminology mentioned in HPL’s writings and even makes feeble attempts at being all spooky-scary once in a blue moon, I would advise anyone hankering for a genuine Lovecraftian experience to check those hopes at the door. Demonbane is about as faithful to its Lovecraftian roots as Haiyore! Nyaruko-san, except where Nyaruko was a light-hearted and entirely self-aware parody, Demonbane actually tries to take itself seriously and ends up looking all the worse for it. I’ll put it another way: they turned the cosmic horrors from HPL’s oeuvre into generic kaiju beasts. Dagon looks like a walrus had sex with a cockroach and, I shit you not, they turned Cthulhu into a hairy testicle. I don’t know if there was some legal or copyright issue involved that prevented them from using Cthulhu’s likeness, but c’mon, you have a VN heavily inspired by Lovecraft and you turn one of the most iconic entities in his universe into an oversized basketball? Real talk though, I personally don’t even mind the whole kaiju thing that much. Hell, I knew not to expect anything genuinely HPL-esque from this VN before I even started it. But if you’re gonna tell a story about giant robots punching the shit out of eldritch abominations, at least make them look cool and memorable.

Demonbane’s lineup of humanoid antagonists are essentially generic shounen stock villains, so don’t expect too much on this front, either. Claudius and Caligula are particularly garbage-tier characters and I honestly felt like skipping every goddamn scene they were in. The most interesting of the bunch are largely interesting not because they’re deep, complex characters but because they have cool voices. Master Therion, the primary antagonist of Demonbane, is voiced by Hikaru Midorikawa so obviously every line he says is gold, but there are also characters voiced by Jouji Nakata, Norio Wakamoto and Nobuyuki Hiyama, just to name a few. So yeah, their voices at least make them stand out a bit, because let’s be honest, they’d be terribly forgettable otherwise. I guess I also liked Nero, but she only becomes likable in Al’s route and isn’t all that important in the others. Similarly, Etheldreda seemed interesting but is given precious little screen time.

There’s also Nya, the resident foreshadowing machine with the killer cleavage whose role is to say ominous things and occasionally molest Kurou in the bath. I guess I’ll put what I’m about to say in rot13 even though I find it pretty pointless considering how obvious it is, but you never know. So, uh, “””spoiler””” warning, lol: Onfvpnyyl, gur tnzr cergraqf ure gehr angher vf fbzr xvaqn uhtr zlfgrel gung arrqf n ohvyqhc ohg yvgrenyyl nalbar jub xabjf NALGUVAT nobhg Ybirpensg fubhyq vzzrqvngryl ernyvmr jub fur vf gur zbzrag gurl zrrg ure.

Oh and Doctor West is Demonbane’s version of the annoying but lovable small fry antagonist. I found him thoroughly obnoxious at the start of the game to the point he nearly ruined the entire VN for me, but thankfully he does have a redemption arc (of sorts) that made me appreciate him more. In fact, I do actually like him now and instead of rolling my eyes going “oh shut the fuck up already” I now just roll my eyes and go “oh Doctor West, your voice is still like nails on a chalkboard but you’re kinda cute so it’s okay” so, uh, that’s an improvement, I think. Jokes aside, I legitimately came to enjoy his character. West is also notable for creating Elsa, the adorable robot elf who just so happens to be one of my favorite characters in the VN. She has lovely ears, a lovely voice, immediately develops a crush on Kurou, and can hold her own in a fight to boot. And her sentence-ending robo 語尾 is the cutest thing. I would not have minded if like 70% of the VN had just been about Elsa, she’s that good. Regrettably, she too was struck by the dreaded Nitroplus Heroine Curse and joined the likes of Chachamaru (Muramasa), Makimoto (Jingai Makyou) and Megumi (also Jingai) as yet another Girl Who Needed a Route But Got Diddly Squat.

There’s Metatron as well, a mysterious superhero in white armor who protects the city from the Black Lodge, and whose true identity should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a working set of ears and a healthy, functioning brain. It’s pretty much the worst kept secret in the entire VN. She has the occasional clash with a dude called Sandalphon who has a raging hateboner for her and keeps screaming her name the way Veigue shouts Kureaaaaaaaa in Tales of Rebirth. Which probably explains why they hired Nobuyuki Hiyama to play him.

So now let’s talk about the girls that did win the heroine lottery.

Al Azif is the perfect thousand-year-old haughty tsundere loli with a really cute voice and a wonderfully archaic style of speech (at least in Japanese, I don’t know if the translation did anything with it) who manages to make the word うつけ feel sexually charged whenever she utters it. Her jealous outbursts in Ruri’s route are also quite delicious and the way her voice sounds a little higher-pitched when she’s in her chibi form was a nice touch. Yes, she has a chibi form where she wears cute catgirl gloves. No, it doesn’t make sense but it sure is cute. Anyway, Al’s route is basically the most bog-standard action VN story imaginable. Absolutely nothing at all will surprise you in this route, I promise. It’s the most 王道 thing to have ever 王道’d and even her endings are pretty weak. I honestly expected more from the apparent “true heroine” of the VN.

Hadou Ruri fills the rich, sheltered ojou-sama archetype but don’t take that as a complaint because I do actually like that archetype quite a bit. Her voice is erotic as fuck, especially when she starts losing her temper; there’s also a scene where she gets completely shitfaced and it’s probably one of the best comic relief moments in the VN. Ruri is largely irrelevant in the routes that aren’t hers and spends most of her time screaming “Daijuuji-saaaaaan” from her control room. Okay, so she does that a lot in her route, too, BUT at least she gets significantly more development and actually turns into a pretty badass Combat-Capable Girlfriend.

For the record, Ruri’s route is my personal favorite of the bunch. I’ve always been a sucker for the “rich/sheltered princess falls in love with the kind-hearted street punk” trope so I really enjoyed her chemistry with Kurou, probably even more so than the Kurou/Al pairing. But even putting the romance aspect aside, the route just offers a somewhat more interesting turn of events compared to Al’s, as well as a decently executed twist. It’s worth noting, however, that you can pretty much figure out this twist in Al’s route as well (albeit it’s not explicitly stated there, only heavily implied) so if you want to be surprised, you might want to consider reading Ruri’s route first. Still, knowing the twist in advance doesn’t stop the route from trumping the other two in terms of overall enjoyment, so yeah.

I also feel that Ruri’s true ending packs a stronger punch than Al’s and provides the storyline with a more memorable finale that actually manages to tug on the ol’ heartstrings. This further solidifies my opinion that if you’re only going to read one route in this game (which I can hardly blame you for), you should probably pick this one unless you really dislike Ruri for some reason, as her storyline actually made me emotional and gave me a good sense of closure, while Al’s endings didn’t.

Leica’s route isn’t as wildly different from the other two as you might think (with maybe the exception of its final chapter), so don’t expect to suddenly be reading something completely new and fresh here. The route explains everything about the whole Metatron/Sandalphon situation, though once again, it’s something you could more or less piece together based on the bits of foreshadowing given in earlier chapters and the other routes, so likely none of these “shocking” revelations will shock you at all. Skintight bodysuit enthusiasts will no doubt enjoy Metatron’s sexy new CGs on the route, though, provided they haven’t already dropped the VN by this point.

You’ve probably heard about this from other people who played Demonbane, but yes, the plot structure in this game is a bit of a mess, as all three routes follow a very similar template and use the same characters/villains with only minor deviations. Al’s and Ruri’s routes have the largest amount of overlaps, but Leica’s storyline doesn’t particularly shake things up too much, either, which means the VN soon becomes an exercise in excruciating tedium for anyone that hopes to clear all three of its routes. There are a number of core plot events that will always come to pass regardless of which route you’re in and will play out in a very similar way with only a few inconsequential changes, while other scenes are straight-up recycled word for word. What sucks is that the game often considers these scenes to be “new” due to said changes and consequently does not allow them to be Ctrl-skipped, so get ready to do a lot of skim-reading after your first playthrough, provided you value your time and sanity. The irony of a Lovecraft-inspired VN driving the reader crazy is not lost on me, by the way.

So yeah, I read all three routes of Demonbane and the only thing I’ve really gained from this entire experience is the right to be able to say “I’ve read all three routes of Demonbane”. In other words, fuck all. Okay, so that’s not entirely true because I did get a cool picture. But you get my point. Sure, the comic relief is moderately enjoyable, as are some of the characters, and the finale of Ruri’s route is genuinely touching. But you gotta wade through a Tyrannosaurus-sized mountain of mind-numbing mediocrity to get to those tiny morsels of goodness, and to be honest with ya, I don’t think you should have to shovel T-Rex dung to get a proper meal in 2019. There are so many better options out there.

To summarize: while it does have some positive qualities and a few decent characters, I ultimately feel like you wouldn’t really be missing out on anything by never reading Demonbane. Sure, it’s objectively not the worst thing I’ve ever read in my life, but at the same time, I deeply regret having wasted this much time on such an aggressively cookie-cutter experience. If you want cool robots doing cool shit, read Muramasa. If you want Lovecraft, read actual Lovecraft stories or Saya no Uta. If you want good writing and that classic Nitroplus atmosphere, read Jingai Makyou. Demonbane does try to mix everything I’ve just said into one package, but it doesn’t do any of them particularly well and everything it brings to the table has since been done better in other Nitroplus VNs. Granted, this is a game originally released in 2003 and it’s one of Nitro’s earliest titles, so I should probably cut it some slack. Maybe. I mean, 2003 was ages ago and you know what else came out that year? Enter the Matrix and Terminator 3. See what I mean? People didn’t know what the fuck they were doing back in 2003. Anyway, the bottom line is that Demonbane is kinda meh and even if it was acceptable 15+ years ago, it really hasn’t aged well. Like, at all.

7 thoughts on “[Review] Kishin Houkou Demonbane

  1. Have to disagree with you about this

    Demonbane is an old school VN, came from 2003, of course, first part of it is quite cheesy and following superhero vs monsters of the week formula, but that doesn’t mean it’s really that bad.

    “Its chuuni is half-baked and corny, the fight scenes are boring, over-written and rarely, if ever, do anything outrageously awesome, and even the music is sort of lame and just reminds you of a cheesy superhero show aimed at kids. ”

    =>Fight scene is fine, and i read them pretty fast, unlike DI, the fight scene is always dragging so long just to letting the characters throwing their ideals and other shenanigan bullshit. I almost fell asleep in Kei route because Machina speak too slow and honestly, i just want Ren and Machina to settle the score already. Ideals-conflicting and philosophy for chuu2ge is good, but only the way you execute it matters, if i watched 2 men fight but 95% of it is just both of them throwing nonsenses to each other then i will drop it immediately. The chuuni in Demonbane is already fine on its own.

    As for the music, reminder it’s made by Jizz, the one who also make OST for Muramasa. Master Therion’s theme is good, Those who challenged Divine Will is good too, heck, all vocals songs for Demonbane is perfect, not less than DI, because they are sang by Itou Kanato. This is the 2nd time i saw someone disliked Demonbane’s OST and called it lame. Even i don’t understand how can they hate something like this either:

    I guess people didn’t appreciate or know how to taste good music.

    “Weirdly enough, Demonbane’s chief selling point – the giant robot fights – is one of the main things I vehemently dislike about it; I generally enjoyed the VN’s “normal” scenes where the characters just interact with each other and do wacky shit, but the moment the robots started punching each other I just zoned the fuck out. The cringe-inducing chuuni shouts and catchphrases hold battles back even more, and there’s only so many times I can read “Demonbane punched that fucker into the stratosphere” or “Kurou started firing his dual pistols pew pew pew” or “Timaeus! Critias!” before I start falling asleep. To make matters worse, his arsenal is fairly limited so he keeps using the same moves and weapons in nearly every fight, leading to a nauseating amount of repetition in a VN that already recycles half its content across three exasperatingly samey routes.”

    => Because Demonbane exactly following the monsters of the week formula, so of course, chuuni shout, catchy phrases or cheesy thingy are common for Demonbane. Please don’t tell me you haven’t watch stuffs like Super Sentai, Power Rangers, Kamen Riders or some shit like that.

    And again, the fight scene is pretty much balanced and paced not so fast, or so slow either. While in DI most of the fights, i feel kinda annoyed when characters keep sprouting nonsenses and their ideals over and over again with dragging intention and it happened in all routes.

    “Demonbane’s lineup of humanoid antagonists are essentially generic shounen stock villains, so don’t expect too much on this front, either. Claudius and Caligula are particularly garbage-tier characters and I honestly felt like skipping every goddamn scene they were in. The most interesting of the bunch are largely interesting not because they’re deep, complex characters but because they have cool voices. Master Therion, the primary antagonist of Demonbane, is voiced by Hikaru Midorikawa so obviously every line he says is gold, but there are also characters voiced by Jouji Nakata, Norio Wakamoto and Nobuyuki Hiyama, just to name a few. So yeah, their voices at least make them stand out a bit, because let’s be honest, they’d be terribly forgettable otherwise. I guess I also liked Nero, but she only becomes likable on Al’s route and isn’t all that important on the others. Similarly, Etheldreda seemed interesting but is given precious little screen time.”

    => Funny how people loves to praise Reinhard and Mercurius are god-tier villain because of their charimastic and other shenaningan. But looking back, here is what i found about their double-standard:

    1. Monarch of Destruction, Golden Beast, Mephistopheles?

    They are also titles of Master Therion, and it’s not like Reinhard is the first one who claimed those anyway.

    2. Ouroboros? Time loop? Eternal Recurrence?

    Exactly what i mean, from Nya’s. Mercurius is also not the first guy who claimed those titles either.

    Thanks to reviews like these, i’m starting to appreciate Demonbane more and how overrated DI is.

  2. So, what do you recommend? I agree, Demonbane may have some good moments, but said good moments are covered by a lot of mediocre stuff that can be annoying and obnoxious. Ruri’s route seems nice, what happened in her True Ending? Curious.

  3. Your review sounds too bullshit I actually started reading Houkou out of curiousity, and yes, I agree, nice review. Actually, this is one of the best example of how irrelevant a Westerner’s opinion is.

    “Its chuuni is half-baked and corny, the fight scenes are boring, over-written and rarely, if ever, do anything outrageously awesome, and even the music is sort of lame and just reminds you of a cheesy superhero show aimed at kids”

    Yeah, half-baked chuuni because unless you drag out everything with tons of purple proses, you Westerner won’t ever ackowledge it as chuuni, and ironically chuuni is not the main focus of Demonbane.

    “The music is lame,” oof, guess they are lame because they are made for Demonbane and only for Demonbane, their purpose is to supplement with everything else in the game, whether it is the characters, the plot, the setting, the aesthetic, the voice acting to make Kishin Houkou Demonbane as a whole, complete game? Indeed, comparing to cheap attempts at rip-off from existing musics and call it a day for some “real” chuuni VN (which you suck it’s dick ultra hard I could imagine you deepthroating it with an ahegao), Demonbane’s music sure is lame, fucking lame, absolutely lame, pathetically lame. For your rip-off lover standard, that’s it.

    And hilariously, Westerner sure have a habit of calling mecha kid show even if the main cast consist of adults, or the contents are obviously aimed for the adult audience. Every fucking single time, good standard to be laughed at, heh.

    “The cringe-inducing chuuni shouts and catchphrases hold battles back even more, and there’s only so many times I can read “Demonbane punched that fucker into the stratosphere” or “Kurou started firing his dual pistols pew pew pew” or “Timaeus! Critias!” before I start falling asleep. To make matters worse, his arsenal is fairly limited so he keeps using the same moves and weapons in nearly every fight, leading to a nauseating amount of repetition in a VN that already recycles half its content across three exasperatingly samey routes.”

    Limited, yeh, a sword that can become a fan for shielding and a boomerang for long range attack, a pair of gun, a binding spell, an illusion spell that can be set up as reflection spell, a barrier spell, physic-defying acceleration spell doubled as a damage burst, an ultimate annihilation technique, and the Artifact of Doom, fairly limited. Too limited comparing with blabling the same lines over and over to make up for the poor skill of writing combat scenes made entirely of spamming same ol’ attack over and over while the narrative blabling something else to distract the reader and prolong a supposedly pathetically short battle. When I thought double standard is already bad enough, then there is reverse standard, nice.

    “but once the second half of the plot gets going, the battles become entirely too drawn out while remaining just as bland and uninspired as before. For the record, I’m not criticizing the game for being chuuni, I’m criticizing it for being the bad kind of chuuni”

    What is the good kind of chuuni? Fighting in a limited area with nothing changing whatsoever, spamming philosophies and ideologies over and over without ever actually convey their idea, covering the lack of contents with flowery proses, and try the hardest to prolong everything because without all of the bullshit mentioned above plus trashtalking for twenty minutes and up, the battle won’t even last for 5 turns? Oh, and can’t even describe the scale of a battle properly, “good chuuni” sounds like some amateur writing his fanfic for the first time.

    “At the beginning of the review, I implied that Demonbane’s Mythos-inspired elements are rather shallow. Well, yeah. They kinda are. Although the script loves to name-drop prominent figures, locations and terminology mentioned in HPL’s writings and even makes feeble attempts at being all spooky-scary once in a blue moon, I would advise anyone hankering for a genuine Lovecraftian experience to check those hopes at the door. Demonbane is about as faithful to its Lovecraftian roots as Haiyore! Nyaruko-san, except where Nyaruko was a light-hearted and entirely self-aware parody, Demonbane actually tries to take itself seriously and ends up looking all the worse for it. I’ll put it another way: they turned the cosmic horrors from HPL’s oeuvre into generic kaiju beasts. Dagon looks like a walrus had sex with a cockroach and, I shit you not, they turned Cthulhu into a hairy testicle. I don’t know if there was some legal or copyright issue involved that prevented them from using Cthulhu’s likeness, but c’mon, you have a VN heavily inspired by Lovecraft and you turn one of the most iconic entities in his universe into an oversized basketball? Real talk though, I personally don’t even mind the whole kaiju thing that much. Hell, I knew not to expect anything genuinely HPL-esque from this VN before I even started it. But if you’re gonna tell a story about giant robots punching the shit out of eldritch abominations, at least make them look cool and memorable.”

    Yes, thanks for making clear that you know nothing about Cthulhu Mythos at all, a typical sign of Cthulhu-based works’s fan who loves to pretend they are die-hard Cthulhu Mythos fan.

    Firstly, prominent figures, locations, terminology referrenced to Cthulhu Mythos are not HPL’s works alone, but it’s also August Derleth, Brian Lumley, Frank Belknap Long, Henry Kuttner, Clark Ashton Smith, Robert Albert Bloch, Robert Elvin Hogwart, Laban Shrewsbury. Jeez, at least know something about the Mythos before barking like a fan of it, bitch.

    Secondly, Demonbane’s inspiration is not from cosmic horror or Lovecraftian horror, it’s from Cthulhu Mythos, and not everything in Cthulhu Mythos is about human wet their pants on the sight of a shoggoth. Heck, even Lovecraft himself wrote stories about Randolph outplay Nyarlathotep in his own eldritch domain, then Lovecraft shit on his own works huh. And while you are at it, how about saying this to Ultraman Tiga fandom, you misarable of a Lovecraft fan wannabe?

    Thirdy, “I shit you not, they turned Cthulhu into a hairy testicle,” nice try, but lame sex joke. “Cthulhu is a fictional cosmic entity created by writer H. P. Lovecraft and first introduced in the short story “The Call of Cthulhu”,[2] published in the American pulp magazine Weird Tales in 1928. Considered a Great Old One within the pantheon of Lovecraftian cosmic entities, the creature has since been featured in numerous popular culture references. Lovecraft depicts it as a gigantic entity worshipped by cultists, in shape like an octopus, a dragon, and a caricature of human form. Its name was given to the Lovecraft-inspired universe where it and its fellow entities existed, the Cthulhu Mythos.” I dare you to answer me, self-proclaimed ardent Lovecraft Mythos fan, which part of Demonbane Mythos’s Cthulhu design did not faithful to the original Mythos? Countless octopus tentacles? Each tentacle is a dragon? It’s flesh, infesting Illusionary Heart Mother, is a mocking of mankind? Hey, self-called Cthulhu Mythos fan, which part is unfaithful to the Mythos?

    And because you are so confident to bark that Demonbane Mythos is unfaithful to Cthulhu Mythos, why don’t you mention the Outer God’s deisgn? At? All? Because Nyarlathotep’s true form, a being of pure darkness dwelling, possessing a “three-lobed burning eye” is exactly faithful to The Haunter of the Dark, written by Henry Phillips Lovecraft in 1935? Because Yog-Sothoth’s is a mass of glowing orbs, a common appearance in various stories of Cthulhu Mythos, because Yog-Sothoth is the key and the guardian of the gate, because it lead to outside of the universe, where past, present, and future are all one in that Outer Universe, which is faithful to Dunwich Horror, written by Lovecraft in 1926, as well as Through the Gates of the Silver Key, written by Lovecraft and E. Hoffman Price between 1932 and 1933? Because Azathoth’s descriptions: Blind Idiot, Flutes, Daemon Sultan, all of them are from he Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath, written by Lovecraft in 1926? You cannot even point out and so-called “shallow references” about Outer Gods at all without blowing your pathetic cover of this garbage review, no?

    Fourthly, for a nasty self-proclaimed Lovecraftian Mythos fanboy with nothing but bluffs, your poor knowledge to even figure out the meanings of each chapter title in Kishin Houkou Demonbane is, truly pathetic. You keep barking and grunting about Demonbane dropping infamous names for spOOkY-sCaRy, but do you even understand the context of each names in the first place, let alone the purpose of each references? Heck, reading Kishin Houkou Demonbane really made it clear to me at how much Jin love Cthulhu Mythos, unlike you and your lame ass “Hey, I’m a fan of Cthulhu Mythos and this Demonbane is not faithful to it at all, belive me even though I’m retard!”

    Fithtly, if you can’t enjoy anything without long-ass purple proses because the writer is so fucking incompetent at writing combat scenes, what is your right to claim that Demonbane’s battle with Dagon where they have to wipe out a whole island with heat rivaling the sun that turning even sand into glass, or the battle with Cthulhu where his awakening already torn Kurou’s soul apart and a single blast from the tentacles annihilated Arkam City, is not cool and memorable? Jeez, what a miserable sophist.

    “Demonbane’s lineup of humanoid antagonists are essentially generic shounen stock villains, so don’t expect too much on this front, either. Claudius and Caligula are particularly garbage-tier characters and I honestly felt like skipping every goddamn scene they were in. The most interesting of the bunch are largely interesting not because they’re deep, complex characters but because they have cool voices. Master Therion, the primary antagonist of Demonbane, is voiced by Hikaru Midorikawa so obviously every line he says is gold, but there are also characters voiced by Jouji Nakata, Norio Wakamoto and Nobuyuki Hiyama, just to name a few. So yeah, their voices at least make them stand out a bit, because let’s be honest, they’d be terribly forgettable otherwise. I guess I also liked Nero, but she only becomes likable in Al’s route and isn’t all that important in the others. Similarly, Etheldreda seemed interesting but is given precious little screen time.”

    Another “HURRR HURRR NOT THE GOOD KIND OF CHUUNI SO IT’S SUCKS” mentality, your shittytaste so I’ll shit on it, “generic stock villian” is much better than useless bunch of tamed beast whose value has nothing but flowery bluffs.

    “You’ve probably heard about this from other people who played Demonbane, but yes, the plot structure in this game is a bit of a mess, as all three routes follow a very similar template and use the same characters/villains with only minor deviations. Al’s and Ruri’s routes have the largest amount of overlaps, but Leica’s storyline doesn’t particularly shake things up too much, either, which means the VN soon becomes an exercise in excruciating tedium for anyone that hopes to clear all three of its routes. There are a number of core plot events that will always come to pass regardless of which route you’re in and will play out in a very similar way with only a few inconsequential changes, while other scenes are straight-up recycled word for word.”

    Color me surprised, I was expecting a better way of lying, not this so fucking obvious “I didn’t read Demonbane, just copy from other review and make it mine.” Heh, or just Westerner being retard, because it’s easy to find out that everything about the progression, event schedule, plot structure, revealing, has two purposes. Why? Because Kishin Houkou Demonbane represents everything in a straightforward method instead of relying on purple proses for the sake of “good chuuni.”

    First, to supplement each other. You are not supposed to play any route in any particular order, like how you claim Leica route the final chapter at all, because by that logic, Al route is the final loop happen in Ouroboros Rondo and must be played last (and Ruri route obviously build-up for Al route). But nope, no matter which order you pick, you won’t lose shit, reading Ruri route after Al route only makes you enjoy both route more with Elder God Ending and vice-versa, reading Leica route first to get the full picture of many events, including Cthulhu’s awakening, Leica’s struggles against her fate to the bitter end, Master Therion and Etheldreda, et cetera, too, will no way hurt your experineces of reading other routes. What a shame, can’t even figure out this mundane, simple fact. Perharp because “good chuuni” always choose the bullshit solution of info-dumping into specific routes in order to force player to read it in correct order?

    Second, the repitition is the point of Kleinn Bottle, O’know-nothing reader. Geez, this is Demonbane, not some “good chuuni” visual novel that could barely even utilize the time loop element at all and leave it as a cheap plot device, because the writer could only cover everything with overly abused purple proses. Ring of Yog-Sothoth is there to show the reader that regardless of whatever action Kurou takes, nothing will change in major events, and even to certain details such as the death order of the Anticross. This, give the time loop an apparent presence across all routes. Who need to have some kind of narrator keep reminding the reader that there is a time loop over and over because it’s presence is too lacking; if you can demonstrate the time loop’s influence directly within the story itself? Only for amateur writer, perharps, or only for amateur readers, who lack the intelligence to figure out such an obvious setting.

    “If you want cool robots doing cool shit, read Muramasa. If you want Lovecraft, read actual Lovecraft stories or Saya no Uta. If you want good writing and that classic Nitroplus atmosphere, read jingai Makyou/ Demonbane does try to mix everything I’ve just said into one package, but it doesn’t do any of them particularly well and everything it brings to the table has since been done better in other Nitroplus VNs”

    Except all of them has different settings, different authors, different writing style, different messages, different theme, different aesthetics, are totally unrelated to each other beside being published by Nitro+ (with H.P.Lovecraft works as the exception from the bunch you mentioned). Heck, Muramasa is not even the giant mecha genre, are you forcing other to read it because you are a fucking Muramasa faggot?

    “Demonbane is a VN that sounds amazing on paper (giant robots + H.P. Lovecraft) but sadly ends up being a largely mediocre and occasionally outright sleep-inducing experience. Which is a crying shame because not only am I a fan of Lovecraft’s horror stories but I do also enjoy me a hot-blooded, buttfuck-stupid-but-still-awesome testosterone carnival from time to time, so this sounded like something right up my alley. The problem, however, is that Demonbane’s Lovecraftian influences are surface-level at best, its plot is riddled with stale clichés and predictable elements, and its supposedly Boiling Hot Chuuni Action is colder than a penguin’s butthole.”

    Across the review, you keep telling how you supposedly know a lot about Cthulhu Mythos, how you supposedly love shounen trope, how you supposedly love mecha genre, but why? Because your review completely goes against it, so you have to keep reminding other Westards that you do know about Cthulhu Mythos (not even surface level, that’s it), that you do love shounen trope (with extended sleep-inducing purple proses, that’s it), that you love mecha genre (but only two metre one, that’s it); just like how some “good chuuni” has to keep ranting about some barely presence timeloop to the reader, trying to make himself look like some deep dark philosophist. You are not a liar, nor a sophist, and not even a tabloid writer. You are a fucking propagandist. That’s to fucking retarded donkeys such as you, that I appreciated Demonbane Mythos even more though, kudo for your pathetic efforts at trying to downplay something you don’t even read seriously, or even read it at all.

    • Seeing how i got notification of new comment, i decided to check it out and what do you know, there’s still genuine Demonbane’s fan who can do a better review than this : D

      Looking back at Gare’s review on the villains of Demonbane, it’s hilarious at how “generic stock villian” actually peforms much better than supposedly complex, sympathetic villians at the sheer madness they represent, whether it is the cunning, maliciousness of Vespasianus that could drive the already-insane Sandalphon to the peak of insanity, become the absolute monster that could even rejecting and cursing his own sister in his dying breaths – the child experiments only to join the rank of Anticross won’t help either, Tiberius is far more twisted than any of the “good chuuni” villian could ever be: find a shounen-tier villian as disgusting as him, and find some actually vile enough to killing people then turning them into zombies for the lulz, or even twisting Demonbane to piss on Kurou, Titus is a demonic samurai who already strayed out of human’s path, even if that guy is the most sane of all Anticross still it doesn’t stop him from killing everyone out of boredom. I doubt he could be shounen-tier either when we got such a cool rivalry between him and Winfield.

      The closest to the concept of shounen is Caligula and Claudius, but those freaks kills everything across their path as if they are no less than crawling ants. The more I point out, the more “good chuuni” villian feels like simple local threats for random shounen-tier garbage.

      And lastly, Master Therion who outplay everyone with his plan as the Beast of Apocalypse who hold the memories of countless loop, a grand scheme that already set in stone a decade prior to the story. If you think about it, all events in DMB are connected to Master Therion one way or another, such as Kurou’s traumatic experience in Mikastonic University, the “birth” of Hadou Kozou and origin of Black Lodge, Hadou Zaibatsu, death of Ruri’s parents, even the betrayal of Anticross is all according to Master Therion’s grand scheme. Master Therion truly did what Etheldreda said in the prologue: “All of creation are dancing within your palms”, literally there’s nothing can escape Master Therion’s plan unless you can defeat him with sheer power and will. If this is shounen-tier villian, I would rate him miles higher than some “good chuuni” villian barely do anything and spend most of his time bluffing bullshit such as Reinhard from Dies Irae, who is also just a cheap knock-off from Master Therion himself.

      FYI, though, sympathetic villian are the real shounen-tier here, because seinen villian are mostly cruel, heartless, corrupted and rotten to the core, many are so damn far beyond saving that the only salvation is death. Shounen level my ass, it’s you don’t even know the concept of shounen and seinen.

      More info, Demonbane reference to Cthulhu Mythos is nothing on surface level either, the Outer God being locked in Shining Trapezohedron is a big reference to how the Outer God are locked outside of the mundane universe. And Demonbane has its own lore and setting, with Biblie, Cthulhu and Thelema as the core elements of the universe. Demonbane’s Nyarlathotep is Chaos herself, a divine being rather than a chaos being like Lovecraft’s Nyarlathotep. TL;DR: only typical Westard comparing Demonbane with Lovecraft when they are two different universes, only share some major elements.

      • Thanks for the info, I wasn’t really well-versed into the Mythos since researching it was a side project I done alongside with reading Houkou, really appreciated Jin for his love to Cthulhu Mythos. Also made it just before I sleep, so kinda missed some info, but here it is.

        “Yes, she has a chibi form where she wears cute catgirl gloves. No, it doesn’t make sense but it sure is cute.”

        Al’s cat-like chibi form is a reference to Lovecraft, who is a cat lover. At this point, I’m pretty damn sure all Gare did is reading Call of Cthulhu, then play Demonbane, then “HURRR HURRR WAAHHHH WHY DON’T KUROU WET HIS PANTS AT THE SIGN OF CTHULHU HOW COULD HE TRIUMP EVEN THE OUTER GODS WAAAAAHHHH THIS IS NOT LOVECRAFT DEMONBANE SUCKS” or something like that.

  4. > If you want cool robots doing cool shit, read Muramasa. If you want Lovecraft, read actual Lovecraft stories or Saya no Uta. If you want good writing and that classic Nitroplus atmosphere, read jingai Makyou
    – Muramasa isn’t cool robots doing cool shit, don’t you ever dare to make it look like some low budget mecha project.
    – Saya isn’t Lovecraft, this is pure ignorance to make Urobutcher’s edginess something equavilent with the fear of the unknow.
    – Jinkai Makyou feels more FSN than Nitro+, think you can fool me?

    Feels like a hater pretend that he read the whole thing by padding second hand information from other haters. Congrats for making me cringe at Shinza, even though this is it’s fan’s fault as Masada entirely have no relation to this review.
    And I can see poor understanding of Japanese here, consider how terrible you are at grasping the core theme of Demonbane. No wonder why the translation of Dies Irae is trash, it literally turn Masada’s writing into a pile of amateurish fanfictiion.

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